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Did You Know... that Italian movie posters are among the hardest of all countries to date?
Return to Did You Know ArchiveAdded: 04/15/2011 Lots of U.S.
posters have a date and/or an NSS number which makes it easy to date them (and
many of the undated ones have some clear markings that let you date them once
you know what they are, and most U.S. re-releases are marked, and many are
dated). Most French posters can usually be identified by the printer and/or
Visa numbers. Many Japanese posters have an Eirin number that indicate the
year of release. While there are of course exceptions to these general
guidelines, most movie posters from the U.S., France, or Belgium are
relatively easy to date.
The other main countries vary, with few as easy as the above
three, but of all the most collected countries, Italian movie posters are far
and away the hardest to accurately date It is frustrating because almost all
have printer names but no one we know of has been able to correlate those
printers to specific dates with any useful level of accuracy (as has been done
with almost all French movie poster printers). Sometimes re-release Italian
movie posters even have the first year of release for that movie printed on
them, but that doesn't mean the poster is from that year (and it doesn't mean
it isn't from that year either). Instead, it simply means "the film was first
released in Italy" in that year.
Worst of all, even the most knowledgeable movie poster dealers and
collectors from Italy admit that, while they are more knowledgeable at
determining dates for Italian movie posters, even they are missing lots of
knowledge, and that there are many Italian movie posters where
they can't say for certain if they are from the first release or a later
release. Sometimes an Italian movie
poster is thought by everyone to be first release, and then someone finds
another poster that clearly pre-dates it!
Because of this, we add the following note to all of our
auctions of Italian posters (unless we feel that we have been able to
determine the year of release with absolute certainty):
"Note that it is difficult to accurately date Italian posters, and some
unmarked re-release posters can be extremely difficult to distinguish from
first releases, so please bear that in mind before you place a bid. We used
our best information to date this poster, but we can't always guarantee that
the Italian posters we sell are not from an unmarked re-release, but this will
only prove to be true in a very tiny number of cases."
Furthermore, we are always looking for additional experts on Italian posters,
but it seems that dating Italian posters is just too complex of a task for we
have only found individuals with useful information on specific posters, but
no one with an expert overview on most
Italian movie posters.
Here is most of the information we currently have that
pertains to Italian posters:
- Italian posters most often come in five sizes. The most
common (called a "2 fogli" in Italy or a one-panel or two-sheet in the U.S.)
measures 39" x 55". There are also two-panel posters (also called
four-sheets or '4 fogli") that measure 55" x 78" (and are printed in two
sections). Another size (often called an "Italian one-sheet") is the Foglio
which measures 28" x 39" and are somewhat uncommon. There are also
"photobustas", which are printed on glossy paper and come in a variety of
sizes and are most commonly are made in sets (similar to U.S. lobby cards,
except that they are almost always quite a bit larger, and on thinner
paper). Photobustas can vary quite a bit in size. Some of them measure only
slightly larger than a U.S. lobby card, and some measure slightly smaller
than a U.S. one-sheet! But they almost always come in a set of 8 (but this
too varies!). Finally, there are locandinas, which somewhat resemble U.S.
inserts, and which also come in a variety of sizes although most measure
approximately 13" x 27".
- Virtually no Italian posters survive from before World
War II (mostly only pre-war heavy stock lobby cards, and even those are
rare). Apparently there were many paper shortages in Italy during World War
II, resulting in the destruction of almost all pre-World War II posters!
- There were "Italian export" posters created in English
and Spanish languages to be used in other countries. These usually come to
us from Middle Eastern, European, and South American sources. Oddly, they
are not exclusively for Italian films. It appears that in the 1960s and
early 1970s most top English and U.S. film producers had some of their
oversized stills and other items printed in Italy, likely because of their
superior printing ability at that time.
- In general, "TODD-AO" on an Italian poster means it is
from the "roadshow" release of that movie.
- Photobusta envelopes usually indicate the quantity made
for a set of photobustas. If an envelope has the quantity handwritten, that
was the quantity sent to that particular theater which is to say that few
theaters actually ordered complete sets. Sets were mixed "large" and
"regular" photobustas and there is no consistency of quantities between
films.
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